Jongwook Park, Harin Lee

Host 1: Welcome to the World History Show where we bring history to you! Right over here today we have…. Galileo! Today we will discuss the exact problems he had during the time

Host 2
: Please give a warm welcome to our guests: the Papal Inquisition, Pope Benedict XVI and Christina of Tuscany!

Host 1 : So first, let’s see exactly what the Papal Inquisition was trying to ask out of Galileo

Papal Inquisition
: So, hereby we stand Galileo that you agree upon the fact that the heliocentric theory is correct and you believe that God’s creation to bring our Earth to the center is incorrect?

Galileo: I support the fact that Copernicus was correct. His heliocentric theory was proven to be valid. I do not, however, think that God’s creation to Earth is incorrect.

Papal Inquisition: Do you realize that by saying that you are declaring that what the holy doctrine tells us is false, that the sun does not move from east to west, nor is the earth the center of our entity?

Galileo: I believe I do! I’ll present to you my ideas on the heliocentric theory. I believe that the immobility of the sun is absurd in philosophy and formally heretical, and the mobility of the Earth is to be at least erroneous in faith.

Host 2: Wait! I think we see a conflict here.

Host 1: Over the years, there have been modern church views that question upon Galileo’s heliocentric idea, particularly the Papal Inquisition who opposed Galileo to the point they arrested him. Right now, ladies and gentlemen, we’ll introduce to you, Pope Benedict XVI and Pope John Paul II. They’ll present you their own opinions and ideas about Galileo’s heliocentric theory. We’ll start out with Pope Benedict.

Host 2: Pope Benedict, how do you view about Galileo’s heliocentric ideas?

Pope Benedict XVI: Initially, I did not support Galileo’s idea. I thought that his idea was a symptomatic case that illustrates the extent to which modernity’s doubts about itself have grown today in science and technology. To be exact, I thought that his idea was inaccurate.

Host 2: Do you have any evidence that supports your disagreement of Galileo’s theory?

Pope Benedict XVI: I believed that I cited references and current views about Galileo. One of those views I cited was a philosopher, Paul Feyerabend. He stated that "The Church at the time of Galileo kept much more closely to reason than did Galileo himself, and she took into consideration the ethical and social consequences of Galileo's teaching too. Her verdict against Galileo was rational and just, and the revision of this verdict can be justified only on the grounds of what is politically opportune."

Host 1: What does Feyerabend mean when he said that?

Pope Benedict XVI: To be simplistic, he believed that the church was right and Galileo was wrong. This was what I discounted on Galileo’s theory. However, I regret for how I discounted Galileo’s idea. Now I believe the fact that the sun is the center of the world rather than Earth.

Host 2: Thank you for talking with us, Pope Benedict. Now we’ll ask Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul, how do you view about Galileo’s idea?

Pope John Paul II: Well, I thought that Galileo understood why only the sun could function as the centre of the world, as it was then known, that is to say, as a planetary system. The error of the theologians of the time, when they maintained the centrality of the Earth, was to think that our understanding of the physical world's structure was, in some way, imposed by the literal sense of Sacred Scripture....

Host 2: Can you put it into simpler words?

Pope John Paul II: To put into simple words, I thought that the church was wrong and Galileo was right. However, I apologized to the Church about the errors I made over the last 2000 years including the trial of Galileo among others.

Host 1: As you can see ladies and gentlemen, what was conventionally thought as complete opposition to Galileo’s idea was not completely rejected, even by church members –

Host 2: Which would bring you question, was the only reason Galileo never gave up was because he was encouraged by the few positive outcomes of his ideas?

Host 1: Perhaps as his letter to Christina of Tuscany indicates. Christina, could you explain what happened between you and Galileo?

Christina: Well he was attending out dinner with the Grand Duke when he started to state things such as his theory of the universe being heliocentric when the monk decided to appoint Galileo’s theory without a doubt, false

Host 1: Did you believe the monk?

Christina: No I did not, albeit he may have had his point of Galileo practicing heresy, Galileo himself had his own answers to the outcome of our inquiry which was shown in his letter after that but I must say that I cannot fully agree to Galileo’s ideas as to support my duty of sacred devotion to Christianity

Host 1: What became of the letter of Galileo’s?

Christina: It became published for much of the public, and to the dismay of the Church after they found that Galileo would support such a theory of the universe. Eventually the Papal Inquisition made their act to take Galileo

Host 1: One poor man in the quest for scientific information

Christina: Indeed he was

Host 2 : For all it’s worth, at least he was right! Thank you Christina, Galileo, the Papal Inquisition and Pope Benedict; we are pleased to have you today!

Host 1: Thank you for being with us today in the World History Show where we bring history to YOU

Host 1 & 2: See you next time~

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